GM Mike's Relative +LEV plus spy changes Xgame
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For some reason I don't receive e-mails from the server. The ones with game applications as well as topic reply notifications, don't know why. They're not in the spam folder when I log to my mailbox through a web browser.
I'll add you two to the game in a moment so that we can get this thing going.
I'll add you two to the game in a moment so that we can get this thing going.
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GM Mike ... Tinker is a Scholar, not a Merc. Can you fix his affiliation on the game page?
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Please check you PM's.
Tried to send an email to you via GM_Mike@kaomaris.com but it bounced although the problem looks like it was at your end not the kaomaris end.
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Please check you PM's.
Tried to send an email to you via GM_Mike@kaomaris.com but it bounced although the problem looks like it was at your end not the kaomaris end.
Gaz
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I feel stupid. If it wasn't for my bad memory AG wouldn't have been eliminated from the game so early... Sorry, man!
OK, 4 turns have run so far. Looking at your TRs the +LEV worker option is not very popular... yet. But, I'm sure there are some comments on how the spying works.
For me it's interesting to watch how noone is able to keep their EFF at 99 by simply spying. Still the spy province for info option is much MUCH more often used than the sabotage EFF option.
Discuss.
OK, 4 turns have run so far. Looking at your TRs the +LEV worker option is not very popular... yet. But, I'm sure there are some comments on how the spying works.
For me it's interesting to watch how noone is able to keep their EFF at 99 by simply spying. Still the spy province for info option is much MUCH more often used than the sabotage EFF option.
Discuss.
trewqh
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I think this is mostly inertia. Another example would be the LEV changes we made for attacks. They've made it perfectly feasable for a player to fight through most of the game and still come out as strong as a sleeper, yet players carry on sleeping because that's what they've always done, thus leading to complaints that sleeping must be overpowered.
It takes a long time for the community as a whole to notice when the accepted method isn't best anymore and usually that happens only when something else becomes noticably superior, which doesn't actually help game balance. At least that's how it always went with things like the tribes in WoK V.
In this case I think the lev damage is more effective, (it's actually quite rare to get useful info from someone when you spy) but it's hard to change the player mindset.
Of course, I didn't play in this game. Just watched it...
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It takes a long time for the community as a whole to notice when the accepted method isn't best anymore and usually that happens only when something else becomes noticably superior, which doesn't actually help game balance. At least that's how it always went with things like the tribes in WoK V.
In this case I think the lev damage is more effective, (it's actually quite rare to get useful info from someone when you spy) but it's hard to change the player mindset.
Of course, I didn't play in this game. Just watched it...
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The two returning CoN players prove their worth and share the win in this one.
The players who survived the longest in this X-game made extensive use of the modified levelling rules. There was some sleeping so this single game doesn't prove that the mechanism I came up with promotes fighting that much.
Spying having no effect on EFF made players put more workers on EFF and made keeping your EFF in mint condition more difficult. What's interesting is that only on turn 15 or so did one of the players realise that this rule made the spy player option much too powerful (no negative effect on EFF for failing!!!).
Once again, congrats to Nestalawe and Nemesis!
The players who survived the longest in this X-game made extensive use of the modified levelling rules. There was some sleeping so this single game doesn't prove that the mechanism I came up with promotes fighting that much.
Spying having no effect on EFF made players put more workers on EFF and made keeping your EFF in mint condition more difficult. What's interesting is that only on turn 15 or so did one of the players realise that this rule made the spy player option much too powerful (no negative effect on EFF for failing!!!).
Once again, congrats to Nestalawe and Nemesis!
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Since levelling troops when they are level 1.000 happens faster than in normal games I actually decided to level up during a war, for a single turn. Not sure I would usually take that decision.
It was me from turn 15 onwards that was constantly spying players data, since I had some empty enemy provinces right next to my spies. That was extremely useful.
I had a poor start, taking only a single neutral province on my first turn, with my men losing a battle that the battle calculator said we would lose 1 time in 5,000!
I was also in a war with Hryllantre from the off, although with Vortan as my ally. It meant that I mainly used any WOK for only LEV and EFF, since I couldn't maintain my EFF with spying. Not sure how it would of affected my use of WOK if I was able to sleep from the beginning.
So, a sense of Deja Vu on my return to WOK. As I claim a win, with my clan mate, Nestalawe, and have a lot of fun in the process.
Since levelling troops when they are level 1.000 happens faster than in normal games I actually decided to level up during a war, for a single turn. Not sure I would usually take that decision.
It was me from turn 15 onwards that was constantly spying players data, since I had some empty enemy provinces right next to my spies. That was extremely useful.
I had a poor start, taking only a single neutral province on my first turn, with my men losing a battle that the battle calculator said we would lose 1 time in 5,000!
I was also in a war with Hryllantre from the off, although with Vortan as my ally. It meant that I mainly used any WOK for only LEV and EFF, since I couldn't maintain my EFF with spying. Not sure how it would of affected my use of WOK if I was able to sleep from the beginning.
I thought there was plenty of fighting, there was from my point of view anyway. I barely had turns of sleeping except for a chunk in the middle before the final battle between the Scholars, and I am known to be a sleeper.There was some sleeping so this single game doesn't prove that the mechanism I came up with promotes fighting that much.
So, a sense of Deja Vu on my return to WOK. As I claim a win, with my clan mate, Nestalawe, and have a lot of fun in the process.